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My book

I am torn between:

A People's History of the United States : 1492-Present

The Twentieth Century : A People's History (This is a shorter version of the above book)

or

Benevolent Assimilation: The American Conquest of the Philippines, 1899-1903

I don't know, probably one of the first two...all three have there flaws...I don't agree with Zinn on a lot of points...

Suggested conservative book
From neocon_2004:

The book I have in mind is absolutely fascinating in its scope. Not really political at all, actually. But the author is despised among liberals, and probably makes modern conservatives wince. The book is "DIPLOMACY" by Henry Kissinger.

Again, this isn't really political, but it does connect the diplomatic dots between 1648-1914, revealing a complex, yet fallible system of foreign relations of Europe and America.

This is a must read in my opinion. It explains in detail why Europe went to war in 1914 and why it had to happen again in 1939.

It explains why Europe, though stable from 1648-1914, fought an incredible number of wars.

It explains Wilson's vision of American influence in the world that has been a mainstay of foreign policy since 1915.
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The first one looks good, very interesting.



I don't read much conservative books, I will have to see what I got around the house to suggest.

I'll get back to you on that.
I am not a political master at all...maybe there are better books out there...
I think it should be a group decision, I invited some of my friends/ aquainatences to join this book reading, since there was no objections to the suggestion on AZ, so they will have some say in what book to read....some are staunch conservatives, so they may have good suggstions for your views.

Maybe all of us will buy BOTH books, and buy both and read them together.

I actually haven't read the entire listed books above, so it gives me an excuse to buy them instead of checking them out of library all the time....
I like that idea. seems fair
Hey mondo, what conservative book you want to read?

Okay, here are the book choices, please vote....
Okay, here are the book choices, please vote....and we will decide based on votes on December 26th what books to buy.

CONSERVATIVE BOOKS:

The Right Nation. (Written by two british reporters working for the Economist.)

The Iraq War from John Keegan.

Diplomacy by Henry Kissinger

"Stolen Valor"?

Larry Elder's book "The Ten Things you can't Say in America",

Ann Coulter's "How to talk to a Liberal",

Laura Ingrhams, "Shut Up and Sing",

"Biased" by Bernard Goldberg

"I Might be Wrong, But I Doubt It" By Charles Barkley.


LIBERAL BOOKS

A People's History of the United States : 1492-Present

The Twentieth Century : A People's History (This is a shorter version of the above book)

Benevolent Assimilation: The American Conquest of the Philippines, 1899-1903

Dominations and Powers George Santayana

Please vote for ONE BOOK ONLY, dependant upon your political affiliation

(i.e. Liberal's choose a liberal book, and Conservatives choose a conservative book--independants e independant and choose what you like...)

Vote here by replying to this post.
http://www.livejournal.com/community/politicalbridge/2207.html
did kerrysucks decide not to join this ?
She doesnt seem to be here yet...
She may be m1guel, not sure though
People's History would be a good book to start with, but I am open to whichever book is chosen.
hi m1guel are you from the AZ chat board?
If so what is your handle there?
Or are you one of my friends I invited?

Or neither? (eveyone is welcome)
The book I have in mind is absolutely fascinating in its scope. Not really political at all, actually. But the author is despised among liberals, and probably makes modern conservatives wince. The book is "DIPLOMACY" by Henry Kissinger.

Again, this isn't really political, but it does connect the diplomatic dots between 1648-1914, revealing a complex, yet fallible system of foreign relations of Europe and America.

This is a must read in my opinion. It explains in detail why Europe went to war in 1914 and why it had to happen again in 1939.

It explains why Europe, though stable from 1648-1914, fought an incredible number of wars.

It explains Wilson's vision of American influence in the world that has been a mainstay of foreign policy since 1915.
Kissinger is cool.
Okay,
Lets give it a day.....If we don't have any other suggestions by tommorow (Thursday)and no one else has any suggestions, lets go for both of these books.

Kissinger, wow--I have read a lot of nasty things about Kissinger--will be interesting to read him.

My wife wants to say:
"I forgot when I saw him last time with book, he only reads book when he is in toilet--5 minutes a day--he has a lot of suggestion--my little writer--my einstien--just typing--he just improves his typing everyday."

I love my wife...LOL
Is diplomacy an easy read? I am concerned if it is too dry, people will lose interest...People's History is easy to read, and I feel very entertaining and graphic....
The book is essentially historical, dealing with the foreign policy decisions of the 17th-20th centuries that led to the world as it is today. It's embellished with quotes and text written from the great leaders including Bismmark, Disraeli, Metternich, Roosevelt (Teddy), Wilson, Stalin, Hitler, FDR, yadda yadda yadda....
I'll tell you what..put it in the bathroom where you can read a chapter every night on the...errr...office chair. Or better yet, take a long bath and read it there. It's not dry if you love this kind of stuff. Kissinger writes remarkably well.
that is gr8
I think 90% of the people read on the throne, but I am the only one who (is stupid enough) will admit it publically.
Left over partisan arguments from the 200 page chat board...

Found here:
http://www.livejournal.com/community/politicalbridge/275.html

Interested in your opinion, if you can post your response there it will keep the web board organized...thanks..
Another book that has gotten my attentio is titled The Right Nation. Written by two british reporters working for the Economist. Here is a link for George Wills review of the book:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/georgewill/gw20041010.shtml

Here is a link to a general review:

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20040901fabook83539/john-micklethwait-adrian-wooldridge/the-right-nation-conservative-power-in-america.html

I haven't read it yet, but am interested. Still another book is titled: The Iraq War from John Keegan. Again, haven't read it yet, but it provides insight to Iraq's history, including Saddam's rise to power. The review is here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1400041996/ref=ase_immaculate-books/002-1123490-7360819

Anyway, a thought.
both

DIPLOMACY by Henry Kissinger
and
A People's History of the United States : 1492-Present (Perennial Classics)
by Howard Zinn

sound good to me for a start

thats my vote
So will we read both books at the same time, or one than the other? I don't mind buying both, I can always use the lib books for firewood when I am finished! Eddie Murphy's Delirious quote, " Now that's a fire!" I am just jerking your chain! Just kidding, really I am. LOL! :)
"So will we read both books at the same time, or one than the other"

Maybe if this is a roaring success --and it seems like it might be...I have gotten some really positive, exuberant responses....then we can read several books over the course of time.

I hope someone else suggests what they feel is a better liberal book�I am pretty familiar with �A people�s history� (at least the first 200 pages) and would like to be surprised�

If anyone wants a taste of the book before buying it, here are select chapters online:

As one of my �skeptic� liberal friends wrote (he still can�t bring himself to call himself an atheist, because of the social stigma attached�he says he leans towards �agnostic�):

�As long as I don't have to read Pat Robertson. That would just be going too far.�

And he suggested the book: �George Santayana's Dominations and Powers.�

Which I have never heard of.

Santayana must be a pen name, or a chosen, not given name�who on God�s green earth would be cruel enough to name their child �Santa�?

�Hi It is me Kerrysucks�
You don�t mind if I just call you Kerry do you? : ) Kind of like how mondo calls B-spritz �BS� for short---LOL.

As people forget who Kerry is, you will need a new name�

I suggested deviously to Mondo that you could hijack B-spritz�s name on the AZ chat line, since he hasn�t registered yet, and use that name. LOL Maybe you can "take" his name....just to piss him off...

Your many names confuse me, but I will get used to it�

~~~~Did you email me with the name Tony, and an earthlink.net account? Want to make sure it is indeed you.~~~~
Santayana made the famous quote:
"Those who cannot remember the past,arecondemed to repeat it."

He was a spanish philosopher. Anyhoo......what the hell, I'll read it.

Wow, that is interesting. Thanks for sharing that, I always wondered who penned that quote...
Yeah that is my husband's account. I just used his becasause mine is a big ole long one from my school, so I thought it was easier. So if you get an email from Tony, it is me Kerrysucks who is using NDkicksace. So I will asnwer to any of the tree names.. maybe I will combine kerrysucks and NDkicksace and be known as NDkickskerrry'suckyace! LOL!
It kind of remeinds me of that comedian form te 70's You cna call me Ray, and you can call me Jay.
Call me Kerry or ND i will answer to either. :)
The one who did the Natural Beer commercials......I remember him.
Hey neo, what conservative book you want to read?

Okay, here are the book choices, please vote....
Okay, here are the book choices, please vote....and we will decide based on votes on December 26th what books to buy.

CONSERVATIVE BOOKS:

The Right Nation. (Written by two british reporters working for the Economist.)

The Iraq War from John Keegan.

Diplomacy by Henry Kissinger

"Stolen Valor"?

Larry Elder's book "The Ten Things you can't Say in America",

Ann Coulter's "How to talk to a Liberal",

Laura Ingrhams, "Shut Up and Sing",

"Biased" by Bernard Goldberg

"I Might be Wrong, But I Doubt It" By Charles Barkley.


LIBERAL BOOKS

A People's History of the United States : 1492-Present

The Twentieth Century : A People's History (This is a shorter version of the above book)

Benevolent Assimilation: The American Conquest of the Philippines, 1899-1903

Dominations and Powers George Santayana

Please vote for ONE BOOK ONLY, dependant upon your political affiliation

(i.e. Liberal's choose a liberal book, and Conservatives choose a conservative book--independants e independant and choose what you like...)

Vote here by replying to this post.
http://www.livejournal.com/community/politicalbridge/2207.html

Re: hey neo

neocon_2004

12 years ago